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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Seems like it's a topic that's better handled by the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>IRTF, especially since there are so many open questions.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>IMHO, forming an IETF working group (assuming that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>there's interest in this) would require a charter that's</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>focused on standardizing a specific solution once it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>has been found. Are there any very specific approaches</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>that have shown a lot of promise in test environments? </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>If so, it may be worth having a BoF to discuss these.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>It's an interesting topic, though.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-Anoop</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: Michael Welzl [<A HREF="mailto:michael@tk.uni-linz.ac.at">mailto:michael@tk.uni-linz.ac.at</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:26 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: end2end-interest@postel.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: [e2e] pre-BOF discussion: "ABR to the Internet"</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Hello everyone,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I would like to start a discussion to gauge interest in </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> possibly having</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> a BOF (note that nothing has been decided yet - but starting with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> a mailing list and a web site seems to be a good idea) at the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> London IETF</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> meeting.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> The topic is "ABR to the Internet" - in fact, it's "ABR Explicit Rate</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Feedback related mechanisms for the Internet". To quote from </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> the web site:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> The goal: A generic approach to ... </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> - identify relevant information </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> - propose a new protocol and/or changes to existing protocols </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> - propose ways to use specific information (endpoint behaviour)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> to achieve a certain QoS gain </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Don't think of it as strictly ABR-like (requiring per flow state).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Think of it as ECN with a finer granularity. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Let us see if we can find enough common ground to justify a </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> BOF request.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To join the discussion, subscribe to the mailing list at:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> <A HREF="http://www.tk.uni-linz.ac.at/~michael/abr-internet/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.tk.uni-linz.ac.at/~michael/abr-internet/</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> You will find about anything you need at this web site.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Kind regards,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Michael Welzl</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Dipl.-Ing. Michael Welzl Researcher</FONT>
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