[e2e] on local ethernet throughput?

[Andrew Smith]

There are plenty of other possibilities that involve "user" authentication
in the control plane that don't need to touch the data plane packet
encapsulation. One example is what we did for IEEE 802.1X - an on/off switch
for most data packets and a way of intercepting a control plane message (EAP
over a new L2 encapsulation) were the only data plane intrusions. A much
cleaner design, I think (only works for a switched pt-to-pt topology, or
some emulation of that like 802.11 wireless, of course).

I put "user" in quotes above because I think that what the DSL deployers
wanted was "payer authentication", not necessarily "user" (I have to give my
"user" password to anyone in my household for them to use the DSL link with
a PPPoE session and my provider makes me use that same password to use their
email services :-( (hence the new email address!).

But this isn't really the place to gripe about the power of monopolies etc.
even though it impacts the "end-to-end-ness" of the service ...

Andrew Smith


-----Original Message-----
From: end2end-interest-admin at postel.org
[mailto:end2end-interest-admin at postel.org]On Behalf Of Woojune Kim
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 12:29 PM
To: end2end-interest at postel.org
Subject: Re: [e2e] on local ethernet throughput?


Hello,

I was just wondering about the comment w.r.t PPPoE being an abomination.


While I agree it is a complete mess and not very pretty, I think it was
deployed because network operators had a real problem : authenticating
users and making money when deploying DSL modems.

I've always wondered if there are any other methods that could have been
used.

thanks

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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:11:41 -0600 (MDT)
From: Vernon Schryver <vjs at calcite.rhyolite.com>
To: end2end-interest at postel.org
Subject: Re: [e2e] on local ethernet throughput?

> From: Graham Cope <G.Cope at ftel.co.uk>

> > we still teach students about bridging?

> And some of us in the DSL community might suggest that you teach them
> about PPPoE as well.

If people had been taught the facts of bridging instead of merely
the trade rag and salescritter "bullet items," we might not have
the abomination that is PPPoE.


Vernon Schryver    vjs at rhyolite.com