[e2e] packet loss in the Internet

David P. Reed dpreed at reed.com
Thu May 23 03:16:38 PDT 2002


Typical is the wrong question for enterprise nets.   As Andrew Odlyzko has 
noted, enterprise nets are very lightly loaded, and are managed to be so, 
except when there are odd constraints or lack of management attention.  And 
loss rates are *really* low, because congestion is low.   The more likely 
congestion problems in enterprise nets is at the endpoints (servers and 
access links).   I observe this in real demos all the time these days, 
where I can demo a particular app that uses uncorrected UDP for voice 
streams (with buffering to eliminate jitter) and can go for hours without a 
lost packet.

Can't speak for ISP
At 06:14 PM 5/22/2002 -0700, Joe Cao wrote:
>Hi Folks,
>
>Does anyone know in the current real world what a typical packet loss
>rate is in an enterprise network and on an ISP trunk?  Also if drop
>occurs, consecutive packets might be discarded.  What is the typical
>burst
>size that gets dropped if RED is not enabled?  Are there any such
>statistics available?  Could anyone get me some pointers that can help
>me
>find those information?
>
>
>Thanks!
>
>Joe




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