[e2e] Internet Draft and survey on P2P in the presence of NAT

[Francois Menard (Mailing List Account)]

I think that until such time as muncipalities deploy community networks
running VoIP over IPv6 at the edge, the E2E cause is a lost one.

That's why this is my focus.
f.

On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, David P. Reed wrote:

> This is all great work, but I have to say that if we had used true subnet
> routers instead of NAT we'd be way better off.
>
> How many lines of code will be needed to bypass NATs in SIP implementations
> 5 years from now?   And how many new firewall and NAT systems will be
> invented that continue to screw up perfectly sensible end-to-end applications?
>
> This wouldn't even be a respectable research topic if ...
>
> At 10:20 PM 4/8/2003 -0400, Henning Schulzrinne wrote:
> >There's been a lot more recent work on NAT traversal in the SIP working
> >group and surroundings. See, for example, the recent ICE draft by J.
> >Rosenberg that combines a number of NAT traversal techniques.
> >
> >Bryan Ford wrote:
> >
> >>Hi end2enders,
> >>I have been working on collecting and consolidating information about
> >>making peer-to-peer applications work seamlessly with NAT (you know, that
> >>evil anti-end2end technology we all love to hate :)), and have just
> >>released the first version of an Internet Draft on which I would be
> >>grateful to hear your comments:
> >>         http://www.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/~baford/nat/draft-ford-natp2p-00.txt
> >>In addition, to get a better sense of the compatibility of these
> >>techniques with widely deployed NATs, I wrote a short NAT tester program
> >>that basically works like a simple STUN (rfc3489) client and outputs
> >>relevant stats, and a friend set up an on-line database to collect
> >>results.  If you are behind or have access to a NAT that isn't already
> >>listed in the database, we'd greatly appreciate if you could run the
> >>client and enter the results you get.  The program (source, Linux binary,
> >>FreeBSD binary) and database are at:
> >>         http://www.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/~baford/nat/
> >>Thanks for your time!
> >>Bryan
> >
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