[e2e] The e2e cost of bandwidth

Ping Pan pingpan at cs.columbia.edu
Thu Apr 24 19:21:10 PDT 2003


Henning,

Love to know how the carriers are charging the users, but I would think that
the price won't change much when you consider the structure of some of the
big carriers. 

In many carriers, data networking and transport networking are in two
independent divisions. The data people had had a wild ride a few years ago,
while the transport people have been bandwidth salesmen year after year.
Now, we have many over-built data networks with tons of empty links at core.
But the transport networks, where the private leased lines are sold, have
been in relatively steady condition. That may explain why the PLL price does
not change much over the years.

This is just my guessing. I would think unless there is some major network
consolidation, the PLL price will continue to be steady.

2 cents,

- Ping


> -----Original Message-----
> From: end2end-interest-admin at postel.org 
> [mailto:end2end-interest-admin at postel.org] On Behalf Of 
> Henning Schulzrinne
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 6:19 PM
> To: end2end-interest at postel.org
> Subject: [e2e] The e2e cost of bandwidth
> 
> 
> For a panel, I'm trying to get some quotable data on bandwidth 
> prices/costs for commercial users of modest size. (Thus, a DSL that's 
> oversubscribed 100:1 doesn't count.) So far, I'm finding mostly 
> breathless hype on how much bandwidth prices have fallen, but 
> no real data.
> 
> To provide some counter-intuitive data that begs to be contradicted: 
> http://www.coop.net, a not-for-profit cooperative ISP in Colorado. 
> Courtesy of http://www.archive.org, has charged the following in the 
> past 7 years:
> 
> 1996: $500/month
> 1998: $500/month
> 2000: $550/month
> 2001: $650/month
> 2002: $640/month ($555/month for 3-year contract)
> 2003: "as low as $555/month"
> 
> Their detailed 2003 prices are no longer available on the web.
> 
> (Their pricing model has changed over the years, but I tried to pick 
> reasonably comparable prices reflecting the second and onward year of 
> one-year contracts. This price does not include the telecom 
> leased line 
> costs, which seem to have changed hardly at all.)
> 
> Clearly, this is only one set of data points, but since a T1 
> is mostly a 
> T1, one would imagine that the price is roughly in line with that 
> charged by competitors. If anybody has other data, even if it 
> requires 
> removing the name of provider, please let me know.
> 
> Henning
> 
> 
> 
> 
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