[e2e] Spam on this list

[Zachary Amsden]

End2End is a spam list.  The argument that new ideas or productivity 
will be lost if the list is subscriber filtered is completely bogus.  
Productivity and new ideas will be lost if people get so disgusted with 
the amount of spam on this list (or in the archives) that they can't 
communicate effectively.  This used to be a great place to exchange ideas.

Simply send a message asking the sender to subscribe or queue it for 
moderator approval.  Subscribing requires a valid return address, which 
most spammers do not have.  Anyone with a valid return address that 
posts spam can be reported and their account shut down.    Yes, this can 
still be abused.  Why would spammers waste their time to reach a 
technical audience that already hates spam when they can snow AOLers all 
day?

90% of the traffic on this list is either spam or people complaining 
about spam.  Yes, I have client side spam filtering.  It doesn't help 
with this list at all, and I can't be bothered to waste my time fine 
tuning spam filters.  If anyone has a sane reason why this list should 
not be restricted to subscribers, please answer.  Every single other 
mailing list I am on is subscriber filtered or spam filtered and 
generates 0% spam to my inbox.

Zachary Amsden
zamsden at cisco.com

Durga Prasad Pandey wrote:

>The amount of spam on this mailing list is just unbelievable. Most of the
>free email servers (such as yahoo) send end2end messages directly to the
>bulk mail folder. 
>Perhaps we should, after all, implement some filter at the admin level so
>that so much of Internet resource(bandwidth, and email storage space) is
>not wasted. The admin could approve or delete the suspicious messages.
>
>Durga
>PS: I know a lot of people are going to disagree, but I can't just help
>typing this mail. e2e looks more like a spam list now.
>
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