[e2e] new mailing list policy in effect

[Jon Crowcroft]

consider the size of the ecosystem, the population pf predators
and of prey and their evolution

now consider the useless pile of nonsense we have constructed that is supposed to be the information superhighway

it is as flimsy as the sheds in somalia



In missive <4037A5CC.4080003 at isi.edu>, Joe Touch typed:

 >>
 >>
 >>Jon Crowcroft wrote:
 >>
 >>> there's an interesting analogy in what has happened to e-mail and
 >>> lists and bboards after we piecemeal deploy
 >>> anti-spam measures, and what has happened to the internet after we
 >>> piecemeal deploy anti-dos measures - nats,
 >>> firewalls, ...
 >>
 >>The fact that NATs affect DOS attacks is a side-effect of
 >>
 >>	a) deliberate blocking incoming connections to support
 >>	ISP service differentiation (you run a server -> you're
 >>	a business -> you pay business rates)
 >>
 >>	b) the unintended consequences of address aggregation
 >>	(a technical flaw)
 >>
 >>In the case of the Internet, we block DOS by blocking all incoming 
 >>connections in most cases.
 >>
 >>In the case of email, we block spam by blocking non-user posts.
 >>
 >>In both cases, we circumnavigate the real issue (reducing load of 
 >>incoming requests or distinguishing spam) by putting up a 
 >>'one-size-fits-all' blockade that may (more in the case of NATs) do more 
 >>harm than good.
 >>
 >>Joe

 cheers

   jon