[e2e] Internet packet dynamics
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jshen_cad at yahoo.com.cn
Tue Mar 16 17:42:09 PST 2004
>From viewpoint of e2e QoS, IMHO, other than its
current co-existing method voice will not be modulated
in the same DSL channel which is only used for data
transfering. The reason is, current method
guarantees a higher QoS level than packtizing
everything at subscriber's PC and transfering with
packets of a movie.
Considering packetizer at IP network edge, as VoIP
does not require a delay jitter of zero and Erlan
equation reflects the statistical characteristics in
PSTN, the amount of processing ability & uplink
bandwidth for a Gatekeeper could be calculated easily
if a special amount of subscriber is considered.
On othe contrary, it seems backbone network needs more
intellegence if overprovisioning level is not high
enough. To my understanding DiffServ devides a
best-effort IP backbone to several colocating logical
IP networks who uses the same QoS & routing mechanism
as BE networks.
Jing Shen
--- "David P. Reed" <dpreed at reed.com> µÄÕýÎÄ£º> At
01:14 AM 3/15/2004, Jon Crowcroft wrote:
> >Iof course the right way to do voice of DSL is to
> use the ATM multiplex,
> >and then pop the voice out at the POP and
> >THEN packetize it in IP where the linespeeds are
> enough that the
> >serialisation delay, and queueing
> >delay jitter are much less:)
>
> You are being ironic here. But for others on the
> list you are too
> subtle. Here's how to understand it: If you track
> the timing of the
> "last byte" of voice in each VoIP packet (not the
> first byte) or "packet
> yet to be made" you find that the main difference is
> due to the delay in
> serialization [we spell that with a "zed" :-)].
> And if you look at the
> system, the main effect here will be that your
> "packetizer" is a shared
> resource among many users, if you put the function
> in the network. This
> introduces major delay variation that wouldn't be
> present if the packet
> were built at the source by a dedicated packetizer.
>
> I write this to emphasize that the "end to end
> argument" is a technical
> argument, and "moving function to the edge" rather
> than doing it in the
> middle of the network, is NOT a religious doctrine -
> though the routerheads
> (who used to be the bellheads) still are looking to
> move functions to the
> point they control, so their marketers can lock us
> in. (the latter is a
> "political" statement, I know - it is worth,
> however, noting that there are
> vested interests in the major router companies that
> constantly push to lock
> function into the core of the network and into
> middleboxes).
>
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