[e2e] seeking help recalling a network term
Jon Crowcroft
Jon.Crowcroft at cl.cam.ac.uk
Wed Jun 14 01:06:38 PDT 2006
In missive <e715d03bb4a90c2eee0bd1707a6e4adf at cs.utexas.edu>, Chris Edmondson-Yu
rkanan typed:
>>I know how much you like history, so here's some fun:
>>That was Donald Davies concept (who independently invented packet
>>switching in the UK in 1965); he used the term isarithmic, the Greek
>>term for "equal").
it was part of the french 1st packet switched net hop-bu-hop traffic
management (flow, congestion and crowd control) technology.... its way
cool and the idea has been re-invented lotsa times including in other
areas like road-trains
also bittorrent incentive matching technology is basically the same
concept
the closed loop e2e feedback that TCP uses isnt, but with ECN or
re-feedback, it starts to sound like a (weak) approxiamtion
davies was very very very clever
>>John McQuillan's 1974 dissertation on routing describes it as follows:
>>
>>"One major thrust of the research at NPL has been a study of so-called
>>"isarithmic" networks in which the number of packets and packet
>>"containers" is held constant. This is essentially a flow control
>>mechanism designed to prevent congestion.... but such a technique does
>>have an impact on the appropriate routing doctrine..."
>>
>>This concept was first published in 1971:
>>ACM second symposium on Problems in the optimizations of data
>>communications systems.
>>(at SIGCOMM's 2nd sponsored conference ;-)
>>
>>Davies wrote in the paper:
>>The Control of Congestion in Packet Switching Networks
>>(which has a 72 version in IEEE Trans. on Communications)
>>
>>"Since data-carrying packets must be created and destroyed, the balance
>>is kept by using empty packets. Thus when a normal, data-carrying
>>packet arrives at its destination it is replaced by an 'empty' which,
>>is put back into the system. When data is ready to enter the network,
>>an empty packet must be found and replaced by a data-carrying
>>packet..."
>>
>>Eventually, they switched to permits to avoid the unnecessary traffic
>>of empties. And as routing algorithms improved, isarithmic congestion
>>control no longer helped.
>>
>>Donald Davies Oral History 1986:
>>
>>"As a means of controlling the number of packets, it occurred to me to
>>give them a permit before they could get into the network. The idea
>>was, I think a good one, and in simulation it seemed to work, but it
>>had the danger that permits could get lost and so the thing had a nasty
>>collapsing process if some part of the network was doing the wrong
>>thing... I don't think the idea was ever more than a theoretical one...
>>quite interesting to statisticians who liked the idea of this...
>>
>>that's it,
>>Chris
>>
>>On Jun 13, 2006, at 7:27 PM, Joe Touch wrote:
>>
>>> PS - found it via some indirect means; it's isarithmic ;-)
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> Joe Touch wrote:
>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>
>>>> I apologize if this is a simple question:
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to recall the name for a network where the number of
>>>> packets/tokens/empty-frames inside the net is a constant, i.e., where
>>>> real data can be put into these units when empty, and emptied at the
>>>> destination, but that the whole net is otherwise just shuffling around
>>>> these 'holes'.
>>>>
>>>> I'm recalling a term akin to "idempotent" or "isomorphic" - though I
>>>> know both are wrong ;-) Does anyone recall the term for these nets?
>>>>
>>>> (I recall their being vogue in the late 1980's, but not much after
>>>> that).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Chris Edmondson-Yurkanan
>>(chris at cs.utexas.edu)
>>Contact info: www.cs.utexas.edu/~chris/
>>
cheers
jon
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