[e2e] end to end arguments in systems design

[Jon Crowcroft]

I havnt seen any email on this list for days now, and before that 
traffic here has been steadily decreasing over the last few years.

does this mean that the "arguments" are over? 

did I miss the conclusion? who won? who lost?

meanwhile, life gets more complex...
http://people.redhat.com/drepper/cpumemory.pdf

...and yet simpler...
http://research.microsoft.com/research/pubs/view.aspx?tr_id=1389

and yet applications burgeon....
just in the  internet supported inter-personal communications space,
we have...

email, IM, sms, facebook, myspace, twitter, wiki, blogs, rss, pub/sub,
pstn/cell/phone/voip/skype, pdas, pagers, and PVRs,
and others, all of which can alert us in new and wonderful ways - i'd quite like a funnel

so I could pipe together all the events and then aggregate them in some semantically 
rich way...of course, virtually none of them is e2e:)

j.