[e2e] Stupid Question: Why are missing ACKs not considered as indicator for congestion?
Jon Crowcroft
Jon.Crowcroft at cl.cam.ac.uk
Wed Jan 31 12:23:51 PST 2007
its clear we should devise a schmee for disguising data packets as acks
a they'd
1/ advance the congestion window and so on
2/ get highrer priority than data packets
otoh, how do we do this - compression, perhaps? how well would VJ's compressed
tcp./ip headers scale over multiple hops? intersting to thin kabout sratge
recovery ( a la nat state recovery) too...
also, what would happen if this was typical behaviour? virtual circuit IP?
MPLS on IP? who knows?
In missive <aa7d2c6d0701291418xf8f715eu447b669ae977160b at mail.gmail.com>, "Lachlan Andrew"
typed:
>>Greetings Detlef,
>>
>>On 29/01/07, Detlef Bosau <detlef.bosau at web.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> In TCP, lost / dropped packets are recognised as congestion indicator.
>>> We don=B4t do so with missing ACKs.
>>>
>>> If a TCP packet is dropped, this is reckognized as congestion
>>> indication. Shouldn=B4t be a dropped ACK packet seen as congestion
>>> indication as well?
>>
>>Because ACKs are cumulative, we don't know that separate ACKs were
>>sent for each packet.
>>
>>For example, high-end NICs typically have "interrupt coalescence",
>>which delivers a large bunch of packets simultaneously to reduce CPU
>>overhead. A single "fat ACK" is sent which cumulatively acknowledges
>>all of these packets. This happens even when the receiver is not
>>congested.
>>
>>
>>Another factor is that ACKs are typically small compared with data
>>packets. The total network throughput is much greater if we throttle
>>only the sources contributing most to a given link's congestion,
>>namely those sending full data packets over the link.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Lachlan
>>
>>--=20
>>Lachlan Andrew Dept of Computer Science, Caltech
>>1200 E California Blvd, Mail Code 256-80, Pasadena CA 91125, USA
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>>
cheers
jon
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