[e2e] Protocols breaking the end-to-end argument

[David P. Reed]

Wikipedia article is not definitive.  In particular, none of the 3 
authors wrote the wikipedia article.   In general, wikipedia does well 
at some things, but I wouldn't trust it to read authors' words more 
clearly than the authors themselves.

In particular: there was never an "end-to-end principle".  So if you get 
the title wrong, why should we trust you to get the details right?

Indeed the original paper was presented at a conference, selected for 
ACM TOCS (and revised to their standards), and the last, online version 
is slightly different.  There was also a version that was circulated 
prior to the 1981 conference among peers and friends - as was the 
convention in the computer systems community - some of the examples in 
the 1981 version were suggested during that phase.

On 10/23/2009 03:02 PM, Lloyd Wood wrote:
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> On 23 Oct 2009, at 18:52, David P. Reed wrote:
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>> Sorry -  I figured everyone on this list knew the paper itself, since 
>> it's cited all over the place, so I was being a little bit terse.  
>> Anyway, one place you can get the original paper text is online at 
>> http://web.mit.edu/Saltzer/www/publications/endtoend/endtoend.pdf .
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> Worth stressing that there are actually multiple revisions of that paper.
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> J. Saltzer, D. Reed and D. Clark, ‘End-to-End Arguments in System
> Design’, Second International Conference on Distributed Computing 
> Systems (April 1981) pages 509-512.
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> J. Saltzer, D. Reed and D. Clark, ‘End-to-End Arguments in System
> Design’, ACM Transactions in Computer Systems, pp. 277-288, November 
> 1984.
> http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/357401.357402
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> The version at Saltzer's webpages above is a third version, with page 
> numbering 1-10, but its footnote
> on the first page is helpful at pointing out different versions.
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-to-end_principle
> could be better...
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> DTN work: http://info.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/L.Wood/saratoga/
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