[e2e] Spurious Timeouts, Fact or Fake?
Jasleen Kaur
jasleen at cs.unc.edu
Wed Aug 3 09:42:03 PDT 2011
Detlef,
You might find our paper (below) interesting, in which we analyze traces
of nearly 3 million Internet transfers to study the performance of TCP
loss detection and recovery mecahnisms. Among other things, it also logs
the occurence of spurious timeouts on a per-OS basis.
S. Rewaskar, J. Kaur, and F.D. Smith, "A Performance Study of Loss
Detection/Recovery in Real-world TCP Implementations,"**
<http://www.cs.unc.edu/%7Ejasleen/papers/icnp07.pdf> in Proceedings of
the IEEE International Conference on Network Protocols (ICNP'07),
Beijing, China, Oct 2007.
http://www.cs.unc.edu/~jasleen/papers/icnp07.pdf
Thanks,
Jasleen
On 8/3/2011 10:08 AM, Detlef Bosau wrote:
> During the recent past, this list has seen quite some few posts
> regarding TCP RTT measurement.
>
> Now, first of all, I was interested in how often RTT measurments shall
> be made and how they can be made. A particular concern is Karn's
> Algorithm,
> because to my understanding, the consequence of Karn's algorithm is
> that RTT measurements obtained by a single RTT timer can be taken only
> when a sender has no outstanding duplicate packets.
>
> Perhaps, I'm wrong here.
>
> However, from what I've read so far, it is not yet completely clear,
> how often RTT measurements should be made. The alternatives discussed
> so fare are:
> - once round,
> - each packet.
>
> While the latter appears appealing to me, particularly when
> implemented with time stamps (RFC 1323), which overcomes the problems
> discussed by Karn & Partridge regarding the problem of packets being
> sent more than once, some literature indicates problems with the SRTT
> estimator when time stamps are in use.
>
> Now, the whole discussion is somewhat confusing to me.
>
> 1.: Spurious Timeouts are confusing to me, because spurious timeouts
> (i.e. a packet which is well successfully transmitted, however the ACK
> does not reach the sender on time) are basically expected by Edges
> paper and the literature based upon this. However, there are papers
> around, which put the mere existence of spurious timeouts in question,
> e.g.
> author = "Francesco Vacirca and Thomas Ziegler and Eduard Hasenleithner",
> title="{TCP Spurious Timeout estimation in
> an operational GPRS/UMTS network}",
> month="May",
> year="2005",
> journal = "Forschungszentrum Telekommunikation Wien
> Technical Report
> FTW-TR-2005-008"
> }
> , while others give detailed recommendations how to deal with spurious
> timeouts in practical implementations, e.g.
> http://tools.ietf.org/search/draft-allman-rto-backoff-02
>
> However, to me the problem seems closely coupled to the underlying
> question whether or not we can estimate the expectation and variance
> of the RTT in a TCP session. Edge requires the according stochastic
> process to be weakly stationary. In other words: In a TCP session,
> once having started and being run for some settling time, the
> observerd RTT shall be, at least roughly, identically distributed.
>
> This distribution should be subject to only very slow and very rare
> change, if at all.
>
> And accourding to RFC 2988, we can obtain SRTT and RTTVAR by RTT
> samples using the well known EWMA estimators for this purpose.
>
>
> So, my questions are:
>
> 1.: How often shall RTTM be made?
> 2.: Is it reasonable to assume "weakly stationary" RTTs as done by Edge?
> 3.: Are the EWMA filters from RFC 2988 satisfactory, particularly are
> these sufficiently generic to yield reasonable results for an
> arbitrary TCP session?
>
> One could summarize these to the question: Do we obtain RTO in a
> reasonable way? And when we talk about spurious timeouts, are we
> talking about spurious timeouts - or are we talking about shortcomings
> of the SRTT and RTTVAR estimators here?
>
> I'm somewhat confused here at the moment. And I would appreciate any
> enlightenment ;-)
>
> Detlef
>
>
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