[e2e] j'accuse NFV

[Khaled Elsayed]

Why is it important that the user checks that its packet have not been
NVF'ed by some functions? Is the problem with NVF or the "functions"? I
might be interested if my packets have been NATed or IDSed but whether that
was through a real device or a virtual one, what is the difference other
than maybe performance?


On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Djamel Sadok <jamel at cin.ufpe.br> wrote:

>
> To have a FW is difficult (performance wise) and sometimes illegal to have
> DPI on the subnet to build an IDS.
>
> But what happens when everyone bypasses NFVs?
>
> Still, it could be necessary to maintain both religions side by side. But
> how can a user check that its packets have not been NFV´ed by some
> functions? other than e2e encrypting?
>
> Djamel
>
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Khaled Elsayed <kelsayed at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You mean like a hacking packet would say please don't process me via that
>> nifty NFV firewall or something :-)
>>
>> Khaled
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Djamel Sadok <jamel at cin.ufpe.br> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> May be we could also give the end user flow the possibility to say that
>>> it
>>> does not want to have its data packets processed by any NFV or even black
>>> list some NFVs (types of functions) on the path. Would this be possible
>>> to
>>> achieve? would it render NFV ineffective? can both NFV and Not NFV
>>> (bypass
>>> it) on given flows live together?
>>>
>>> Djamel
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Matt Mathis <mattmathis at google.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:26 PM, <l.wood at surrey.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Ah, j'accuse TLA.
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > SDN is not is the same bucket, let me assure you.
>>> >
>>> > As for TCP, good algorithms are portable between protocols, bad
>>> algorithms
>>> > are dangerous at any scale.   Once you fully deconstruct the protocol,
>>> I
>>> > don't care so much about the packet format.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > --MM--
>>> > The best way to predict the future is to create it.  - Alan Kay
>>> >
>>> > Privacy matters!  We know from recent events that people are using our
>>> > services to speak in defiance of unjust governments.   We treat
>>> privacy and
>>> > security as matters of life and death, because for some users, they
>>> are.
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